Posts by cognizant dissident

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Is it just me or everytime something good happens there has to be a bad

by tsunami_rid3r in

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my dad is okay with me drinking and partying and having 2 girl roommates, but he also has a girlfriend, and just today when i was hanging out with my uncle who was down here in my college town, he was wondering with me what my dad was doing.

he like just between you and me, and he said he thinks my dad has a girlfriend, and i just said i don't really know, which i don't.

because my dad said he's not having sex with this girl, they just do fun things together.

cognizant dissident

So let's see, your a hot 18yr old guy, living with 2 hot girls, going to school, having a good time, hangin with your family.....

There ain't nothing wrong with you from what I can see. One day, when you' re old and fat and married with a passel of screamin kids and a mortgage to pay, you're going to look back and realize how much fun you had then and have a mid-life crisis trying to figure out how the hell you can get back to that place. Kick back and have fun... you're young, enjoy it!

Oh, and yes, bad stuff does eventually always follow good. That's life and nobody escapes some suffering, that's why you have to appreciate the good stuff when it's happening.

Cog (wishing like hell I was 18 again and going to college instead of pioneering.)

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PREACHING has STOPPED / ARMAGEDDON has BEGUN !!

by DannyHaszard in

received via email from a supporter,has anyone heard of this watchtower cult development?

{...i just wanted to let you know about some recent and alarming news in the wts.

my sister, who is not baptized yet, has been going to the meetings on a regular basis with my mom, who is full time pioneer.

cognizant dissident

Last Christmas, I was talking to my pioneer stepmother, and she said the CO gave a talk at the pioneer school where he suggested they be prepared for the possibility that the end will come before the 2010 Winter Olympics, which will be held in our area so it is a topic of interest around here.

Well, she has been repeating this info to her return visits and Bible Studies and all in the family. I said why are you encouraging everyone to focus on a date. She said it wasn't her date, this was from the CO. My husband and I told her that he was wrong for speculating publicly on a date like that. She said, "What's wrong with that? It creates a sense of urgency in our door to door ministry! It could help to spark people's interest in the truth!"

So, my reply was, "What's wrong is that it creates a false sense of urgency! The CO has absolutely no way of knowing when Armageddon is coming. What happens to all those bible studies or new baptees when the Olympics come and go with no sign of Armageddon? Haven't they learned their lesson from all the people who left after 1975?"

Well, she backed down after that and said, "OK, OK, I won't ever bring it up again, if I knew I was going to get this kind of reaction, I wouldn't have brought it up at all." She just didn't get that there was anything wrong with it? It's like they live in some kind of alternate reality where the end justifies the means.

Cog

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Disfellowshipped anointed

by New Worldly Translation in

it's not very often my mother brings up jw stuff with me cos she knows my opinion on it.

tonight however she mentioned that she had answered up incorrectly at the book study this week and she wanted to know what my take on it was.. the question was can disfellowshipped anointed ones come back into the org and still claim they are of the anointed?.

my mum said no and i thought no too, but apparently they can or so the group leader said.

cognizant dissident

I have this explanation directly from the mouth of someone annointed.

He told me that no one but Jehovah can judge when someone has committed the unforgivable sin. So no one can say that even an apostate has committed an unforgivable sin. There have been cases where apostates have been reinstated. It is very rare, but it has occured.

I think the reason it is so rare is not because the org is totally unwilling to reinstate apostates. I think its just because so few apostates ever ask to be reinstated! lol

Cog

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I could never be Jewish...

by zeroday in

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i love bacon, sausage, and ham.

cognizant dissident

What' a Jewish dilemna?

A: Free pork!

An ex-jewish JW woman told me this joke so don't give me any flak about racist stereotyping!

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Were you a nodder?

by merfi in

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you know.... one of those jws who nods slightly in agreement with a point the speaker makes?

i've seen this lots at assemblies etc but we do have a local nodder; we call her bonnie bobble-head cuz she reminds me and the kids of the bobble-heads for car dashes.

heehee.

cognizant dissident

Oh yeah, in one congo I was in there were many black sisters who not only nodded, clucked, clapped, and whispered loudly to those beside them, but also muttered under their breath whenever the speaker said something especially enlightening.

It went like this:

"...and that's why we need to trust in the faithful slave brothers!"

"mmhmm, you said it."

In our hall there is a sister who does this exact thing and she is not black. It's much funnier when a white person does it. We all make jokes that she joined the wrong religion. She should have been a Southern Baptist or a holy roller Pentacostal. She really stands out in our hall because the rest of them are so old and stodgy and sedate, (read half asleep).

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Wife gets mags while at work...

by Hecklerboy in

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my wife is a nurse in the icu at our local hospital.

they had a witness guy in there last night.

she refused to take him as a patient because she can't stand witnesses .

cognizant dissident

Speaking as an ex-nurse, we were taught to show respect for all our patients and their religious views and customs (regardless of our personal feelings and unlike JW's.) If certain patients really push our buttons, whatever they are, and there is another colleague available to care for them, it is OK to ask the colleague to switch or take over the care. But if no other nurse is available, then we just have to put our bias aside and give them the same care we would anyone else otherwise we could be censored by our licensing body for discrimination. But we still don't have to like them. So hecklers wife did nothing wrong in asking another nurse to take the patient.

Cog

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Another Martyr on the Watchtower alter........

by Gill in

every so often, i think, perhaps i'm starting to let go of any interest in the wtbts and what it's poor deluded followers continue to do, or to suffer because of their misguided interpretation of the bible and, well....life in general.

however, my mum called me the other evening to tell me about a former jw 'friend'.

she is 48 and has just been diagnosed with a blood cancer.

cognizant dissident

Thanks everyone for your interest in my niece. She had her transfusion yesterday and seems to be doing fine. She may need another one this week is her immunse system does not settle down and stop attacking her platelets. Surprisingly, my parents behaved themselves rather well. Aside from a few suggestions to the doctors to try alternative treatments that weren't even relevant to her condition, they didn't put any pressure or guilt on my sister. She thinks they are secretly glad her husband and her are not witnesses so their grandchild can have a transfusion.

Actually, this just makes me think they are more hypocritical. It is one thing to put pressure on another witness family re: blood transfusions, but when it comes to your own family it is another story. I have seen other instances of this double standard at work with my parents.

Cog

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What's Your Opinion Of Jehovah?

by minimus in

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.....just curious.

cognizant dissident

Lola

I think he might be bipolar and off his meds.

LMAO! I think he might also have narcissistic personality disorder!

Cog

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Another Martyr on the Watchtower alter........

by Gill in

every so often, i think, perhaps i'm starting to let go of any interest in the wtbts and what it's poor deluded followers continue to do, or to suffer because of their misguided interpretation of the bible and, well....life in general.

however, my mum called me the other evening to tell me about a former jw 'friend'.

she is 48 and has just been diagnosed with a blood cancer.

cognizant dissident

Hi everyone, just a quick update on my niece, she did have to have a blood transfusion today. Hopefully, this will be all she needs and her immune system will normalize itself. If not, this could be an ongoing problem for her and an ongoing issue in my mostly JW family.

I'll update further when I know more maybe on a separate thread.

Cog

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Sacred Service - Article Review

by TheListener in

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cognizant dissident

Hi Listener

I liked your post. I'm just starting to read a little of Ray Franz and I thought your post just emphasized and gave credibility to his claim that the society at that time were very intent on discrediting any apostate views.

Don't be discouraged. Some posts I thought were fascinating barely received a nod. But check out the masturbation thread! I guess sex really does sell! Next time try starting your doctrinal threads with a lurid title. lol

Cog